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Special Commemoration [02 Jul 2003|06:33am]

mesila
[ mood | nostalgic ]

2 July 1982 marks the 21th Anniversary of an event of great import to my personality construct, and a huge influence on my life to come afterwards.

It's the twenty-first anniversary of my first Use, which is to say my first Use of a Controlled Substance or Proscribed Drug.

Which - in this case as in many others - was marijuana.

Let me say something about that for a moment. Every dedicated druggophile, every lifetime Chemical Boy or Chemical Girl, starts with pot. On this statistic rests the shaky, flawed-as-hell logic of the mainstay of marijuana prohibition: The Gateway Drug Theory.

"Pot should be illegal since it leads to the use of other drugs" parrots every ONDCP stooge. People believe that crapola because most people know shit-all about how it is possible to manipulate data using statistical tomfoolery and/or tricky rhetoric. But it's meaningless.

You might as well make water illegal. I guarantee you, EVERY junkie and cracklouse started with that stuff long before they took their first toke of weed. Well, okay, water's kind of sacred to life and we've all heard the Dihydrogen Monoxide jokes. But the principle remains the same: the "Gateway Drug" nonsense makes use of conclusions drawn on empty air.

"It is found that 90 percent of heroin addicts smoked pot. Ergo, we conclude that pot leads to heroin addiction."

But what about the pot smokers who didn't become junkies? We don't HAVE statistics for that, since they'd be kind of difficult to get. So an extrapolation gets made on what data they DO have...even though it's not enough data to extrapolateON in the first place! - logically, anyway. Since antidrug propagandists do this for a living, they have deadlines, and they don't give a shit if they make drug users look bad on false pretenses, because their job is to make drug use and drug users look bad, not to teach them anything about drugs which is NOT negative in its implications. So, the ONDCP guy, mindful that no job means no gravy and even if it's a shabby job it'll get him a paycheck - he will just crib it. Selectively pick some facts and "forget" to tell others. Or even just pull stuff out of their asses and call it facts.

The OTHER problem with the Gateway Drug crap is that it is self-perpetual, in a sense: the gateway theory is used, among other things, to justify the very laws which cause the conditions that EXASCERBATE the chances that pot users will end up being exposed to riskier, more expensive substances. In the black-market drug trade, a dealer with any sense generally will try to get the most money for the least risk.

Therefore s/he will usually traffick in multiple products. Eventually they figure something out: physically addictive drugs like heroin and crack have a higher return customer rate than marijuana, which even a gluttonous head doesn't go through a bag of in one day and then go back to buy more. So people coming to their guy to get some weed will get exposed to hard drugs sooner or later.

(Interesting to note that while junkies are part of the Amsterdam cityscape, there's fewer of them in Holland than in America - and also fewer of them who claimed pot was their first drug experience.)

Anyway, on 2 July 1982 I got stoned for the very first time...with stupidly amusing and endearing results. If you want to find out what happened...you know where to click...

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A Call for Trip Reports!!!! IMPORTANT!!!! [25 Nov 2002|03:26pm]

renwick
Hello Everyone,
Sorry if some of you get multiple copies of this on various lists but this is very important to me so I am trying to get it to as many people as possible. As some of you already know, I am writing a book on psychedelics/entheogens. I am almost finished with it except I need a few more trip reports to add to the trip reports sections of a few different chapters. I need trip reports for the following:
-DMT
-DPT
-DiPT
-MDMA
-Ketamine
-Mescaline, Peyote, San Pedro
-Datura/Brugmansia/or related sp.
-Dramamine
-Nitrous Oxide
-GHB/GBL
-THC/Cannabis
-High dose DXM
-Ambien

If you have written any trip reports on these and wouldn't mind me printing them in my book please email them to me at renwick666@fastmail.fm and make sure you to give the name (if any) that you want me to use so I can give you proper credit. I promise not to take them out of context or alter them in any way (except to remove gramatical and spelling errors that were not purposefully there i.e if you wrote the report while on the drug in question I would leave your spelling/grammar changes). I would like comparative reports if possible as it would fit with the theme of the book, but I will accept all well written reports. Thanks in advance for the help.
~Renwick
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Need Info to finish my book [04 Nov 2002|05:46pm]

renwick
I am looking for comparative information between 5-meo-DMT, DMT, DET, and DPT. How, in your opinion, are they differentand how are they similar. I'm trying to include opinions other than my own and it's tough to find people that have tried all of these and are willing to write about them.
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VERY IMPORTANT! I'm going to make this really easy for you [23 Oct 2002|05:14pm]

renwick
VERY IMPORTANT! I'm going to make this really easy for you
Below is a letter I am sending to my congressman. All you have to do is copy it and send it to your congessman. Here is the link to the congessional database ( http://www.house.gov/writerep/ ). You have no excuse to not write to your congressman now other than laziness and if I find out you failed to do this I will kick you!

MY LETTER:


A bill (HR 5607) introduced in Congress on October 10, seeks to make the Mazatec ceremonial plant Salvia divinorum and its active principle Salvinorin A the next outlawed drugs under federal law.

HR 5607 is an effort to bypass procedural safeguards established for determining which drugs should be controlled. Rather than make an end-run around these procedures, Congress, if it truly believes that Salvia divinorum meets the criteria for addition to Schedule I should refer the matter to the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services for his evaluation and recommendation. This is the procedure established by federal law.

HR 5607 bill is a political effort to grandstand on the War on Drugs, when drug prohibition has been shown to cause more harm than good. See Drug War Facts (http://www.drugwarfacts.org/) for useful statistics on the failure of drug prohibition.

HR 5607 targets a plant that has a well-established history of safe shamanic use by the Mazatec Indians of Mexico. The plant's beneficial medicinal properties are just beginning to be scientifically explored, and HR 5607 would make it all-but-impossible to continue these investigations. A recent scientific paper(http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_journal3.shtml), for example, reported that Salvia divinorum may be an effective anti-depressant for some people. Its unique chemical structure also makes it possible that it could lead to new cures for mental disorders.

The plant does not present a danger to the public. According to the Toxic Exposure Surveillance System maintained by the American Association of Poison Control Centers, there has not been a single report of S. divinorum poisoning.

According to a report on Salvia divinorum and salvinorin A by the Center for Cognitive Liberty & Ethics (ccle), neither Salvia divinorum, nor salvinorin A, meet the criteria necessary for addition to Schedule I. Please download this report (http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/pdf/salvia_dea.pdf) for more details about Salvia divinorum and why it does not belong in Schedule I.

As one of your supporters I urge you to vote against this bill.
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Emergency! [22 Oct 2002|04:58pm]

renwick
A bill (HR 5607) introduced in Congress on October 10, seeks to make the
Mazatec ceremonial plant Salvia divinorum and its active principle
Salvinorin A the next outlawed drugs under federal law. The Center for
Cognitive Liberty & Ethics (ccle) is organizing and preparing opposition
to HR 5607, and is also calling upon all interested people to express
their opposition to this unwarranted extension of the US war on drugs.

Read More at:
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/salvia_divinorum_action_center.htm

stock up now:
http://www.basementshaman.com
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2c-t-7, BZP, and TFMPP all illeagl within a month. [19 Jul 2002|09:46am]

renwick
http://www.alchemind.org/DLL/2ct7_alert.htm
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About valium [09 Mar 2002|07:39am]

novapsyche
Can anyone tell me anything about it? Or, direct me to a good place to read about it online? For once, erowid isn't stocked with information....
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email I sent to Bob and Tom this morning [06 Mar 2002|09:46am]

novapsyche
They didn't read it on the air today, but they often do news follow-up jokes the next day. They may still give my website a free plug.

One thing I neglected: I should have told them that methamphetamine was also available as a prescription drug, since it's only Schedule II (as is morphine, PCP, cocaine--yet heroin [which is 1/4 as potent as morphine], quaaludes, LSD and marijuana are Schedule I--this doesn't make any sense!).
Here's the email [slightly altered]....Collapse )
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Spiritual Journal, 3/4/02 [04 Mar 2002|04:08pm]

novapsyche
5:30 a.m.

When we went from audiotactile [I was listening to a Terence McKenna recording recently] to visual, our perspective became perpendicular to the natural universe. On that day, we became abstracted from nature, homo sapiens sapiens.

Somehow [this is speculation], this has something to do with this last age, this age just after the last ice age (the Holocene Thermal Maximum, as described by Julian Jaynes in Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind).
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5-HTP [24 Jan 2002|06:29pm]

novapsyche
So... this week I was able to get my hands on a bottle of 5-HTP. I'd done some reading about it (there's a lot more information about its derivative, serotonin), and I felt comfortable enough to try it. I got mine at Wal-Mart, in the Vitamin/Herbal Supplements aisle, near the dieting aids. (5-HTP is primarily marketed as a diet aid, and only secondarily as a mood enhancer.) It came in a trapezoidal gold box, and cost $8.88.

The pills themselves would be suspicious to, say, a cop: they are simple gelcaps, no inscriptions, with a white substance inside. 5-HTP supplements are made from Griffonia simplicifolia seed extract. These are 50 mgs each, 30 in a bottle, and suggestions are to take one or two daily. (Each also contains 10 mgs of vitamin B6, which helps the body absorb the 5-HTP. However, as I read later, it's better to have just 5-HTP and supplement vitamins on one's own. As it is, these pills supply 500% of one's daily intake of vitamin B6. [The OD level of vitamin B6 is 100 mgs, by the way.])

Okay, so I took one about three days ago, because I've been very depressed, as F could attest. I freely admitted to him that I was interested in self-medicating myself, and he didn't think it was a bad idea. I didn't really notice any specific effects, though I thought it was funny that I ended up staying awake for hours--the bottle says it promotes healthy sleep. (This is because serotonin is the precursor to melatonin, which causes the body to become drowsy.)

But the next day, I woke up without feeling so overwhelmingly depressed, and that was a start. It generally takes a week for the full effects to make themselves known. Also, I'm starting with a basic dose, 50 mgs daily. Many people take twice as much, or more, every day.

Adverse effects? I'm a little more jittery than usual, but that could be from drinking more caffeine lately. As far as beneficial effects go, I realized that when I've smoked pot recently, it's had a dreamy quality I have not experienced since my earliest days of becoming acquainted with MJ. That, I have to say, is a pleasant unexpected something extra. :)

By the way, a lot of advice I've seen on the Net are folks claiming that taking 5-HTP after rolling cushions the crash and makes it not nearly so sharp. If I ever get my hands on E again, I will probably pack a 5-HTP pill or two as well.
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please read with an open heart and mind [07 Jan 2002|03:42pm]

ex_suki_blue622
"i will post a more 'normal' entry later-
but i am powerfully compelled to write
this and get it out of my system to help
others, and myself (so i feel better
as well) for those who have no idea what
i am talking about, please disregard,
for those who do-know i am serious
and my intent is to help/advise, you
are the masters of
your 'reality' and will know what
is best for you in the end"- suki

A '.' HAS BEEN BREWING IN ME THESE
PAST SEVERAL WEEKS. A URGENT 'FEELING'
THAT I SHOULD EXPRESS WHAT I HAVE RECENTLY
EXPERIENCED, HOWEVER VAGUE AND OBSCURE TO
SOME AND TO RELATE WHAT ONE CAN DO, OR WHAT
SEEMINGLY HELPS WHEN ONE MOVES TO FAST INTO
THE OTHER 'REALM-STATES OF THOUGHT/REALITY-
VIEWING/EXPERIENCING'

PSYCHONAUTS.SHAMANS.CYBERPUNKS.MYSTICS.
ETC. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. AMATUER BRAIN
RESEARCHERS. REALITY MAKERS. SPIRITUAL PATH
WALKERS. PLEASE BE ADVISED:

YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO 'DIGEST' AND SLOW
DOWN THE 'PROCESS-WALK ON THE PATH' WHEN
YOU START FEELING TOO 'FILLED'...TOO MANY
'NEW' THOUGHTS, THOSE EXPERIENCES LEADING
TO SOMEWHAT DEPRESSED STATES WHEN LOOKING
AROUND AT THE REALITY ONE IS IMPRISONED IN.
CONFUSION, LACK OF SLEEP, IRRABILITY, CHANGES
IN DIET, LACK OF EXERCISE...OR OTHER NOTICABLE
CHANGES THAT MAY BE OVERWHELMING OR DISTRESSING,
OR ENLIGHTENING SO MUCH THAT YOU ARE NOT
PROPERLY 'GROUNDED'.

FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS I HAVE EXPERIENCED ALL
OF THE ABOVE, AND AT TIMES FELT MY BRAIN/HEAD
WAS GOING TO EXPLODE, TOO FILLED, WITH ENERGY,
WITH WHATEVER. DIPPING INTO THE UNCONSCIOUS,
EXPANDING ONES MIND, ALL OF THIS IS WELL AND
GOOD BUT I AM STARTING TO BELIEVE THAT WHAT
BEGINS AS EXCITEMENT WHICH PROPELLS ONE HAS
TO BE REIGNED IN AT SOME POINT, OR SERIOUS
MENTAL/PHYSICAL DAMAGE COULD ENSUE. ONE
CAN ONLY HANDLE SO MUCH, THIS HAS TO BE
REMEMBERED.

PHYSICAL TOUCH IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
HUGGING, KISSING, TOUCHING, PETTING YOUR
PETS, ETC. ETC. PHYSICAL TOUCH IS A WONDERFUL
'GROUNDER' THAT KEEPS YOU IN YOUR BODY, WHICH
HELPS GROUND YOUR MIND. GIVES YOUR MIND/BODY
A BREAK...

ROUNTINE-NESS/ROBOTIC HABITUAL PROCESSES
WORK, (I WOULD SAY T.V., BUT ONE WANTS TO
STAY HEALTHY AND NOT PUT ANY MORE SHIT
IN THE PSYCHE AFTER ALL THE HARD WORK
OF GETTING SHIT OUT)MOVIES, FICTION BOOKS,
PAINTING, SINGING, DANCING, SURFING THE NET,
AN OCCASSIONAL DRINK (ALCHOHOL IS VERY
GROUNDING, MARIJUANA ON THE OTHER HAND
CAN BE IF THE MIND-SET IS ONE OF BODY
RELAXATION, OTHERWISE MARIJUANA CAN
PROPEL ONE, OR AID IN PROPELLING THOUGHTS/
MIND-STATES INTO 'HYPERSPACE' OR WHATHAVEYOU,
SEX, EATING (ANOTHER WONDERFUL GROUNDER),
MUSIC (AGAIN, SOME MUSIC MORE THAN OTHER TYPES,
SOME WILL BE A PROPELLER, SOME IS A GROUNDER,
YOU KNOW YOURSELF WHICH IS WHICH OF YOUR
OWN PERSONAL COLLECTION), EXCERSICE, YOGA,
BREATHING TECHNIQUES (AGAIN, SOME GROUND,
SOME PROPELL-FIND WHICH ONE GROUNDS AND
USE THAT...

*EVERY DAY* BE AWARE OF THIS AND ENGAGE
IN ACTIVITIES THAT DO NOT USE UP ALOT
OF BRAIN ENERGY...BY USING UP THAT ENERGY
YOU MAKE ROOM FOR MORE AND IF NOT PROPERLY
EXERCISED OUT IN SOME FASHION, THIS CAN
LEAD TO THE VERY SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS
OF PHARMACUTICAL RESEARCH THAT CAN LEAD
TO FUCKED UP BRAIN STATES THAT WE ARE
ALL AWARE OF, YOU DO NOT WANT TO LOSE
TOUCH WITH THIS FAKE-PROP REALITY, OR
YOUR OWN...UNLESS YOU REALLY ARE READY
TO TRANSCEND, AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS DEATH.

WHETHER OR NOT INCLINED TO RESEARCH BUDDHISM,
I WOULD ADVISE TO LOOK INTO THE BODISITTAVA
(SPELL) VOW, AND WHEN YOU READ IT I THINK IT
WILL HIT HOME. IT IS FOR US. ONCE YOU GET
TO A CERTAIN POINT, YOUR GLIMPSE OF 'DEATH'
IS CLARIFIED TO THE POINT THAT THE WORD
DEATH NO LONGER JUSTIFIES THAT/THOSE ALTERNATE
REALITY(S)THAT EXIST...SO YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE...
AND THE VOW WILL TELL YOUR HIGHERSELF,
COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS ETC. THAT YOU DO
WANT TO STAY IN THE PHYSICAL FORM AND
AID OTHERS UNTIL WE ALL CAN TRANSCEND
(a very poor summary of the actual vow).
MY BOYFRIEND AND I RECENTLY
TOOK IT, AND THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT
I AM TALKING ABOUT SHOULD LOOK INTO IT
AS WELL.

BASICALLY I AM SAYING TO CAREFULLY SPACE
OUT ANY AND ALL TRIPS OUT OF 'HERE'...GIVE
YOURSELF PLENTY, *PLENTY* OF TIME TO DIGEST
AND RECUPERATE AND ESPECIALLY TO RE-GROUND
YOURSELF TO THIS 'PLANE' AND THEN INCORPORATE
WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED INTO THIS REALITY-CONSCIOUS-NESS
AND OF COURSE, TO AID, HELP AND ADVISE/WARN OTHERS.
WHEN YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT YOU REALIZE
THERE IS NO HURRY...IT WILL HAPPEN, IT ALL WILL
HAPPEN, WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, AND WE ARE HERE
NOW, AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE HERE EXISTING IN SOME
FORM, SO THE OLD ADAGE OF 'THE BODY IS A TEMPLE'
MAKES SENSE, WE ARE EXTREMELY USEFUL HERE, NEEDED,
AND OUR BODY CAN BE SEEN AS A SPACESHIP THAT HAS
LANDED OUR SOULS TO DO THE DIRTY WORK OF EXPANDING
OUR MINDS AND OTHERS, LETTING THE LIGHT, AND 'GOD'-
ENERGY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IN- WHICH
CANNOT BE DONE IF WE FAIL TO ADHERE TO WHAT THE
BODY/MIND NEEDS.

VISUALS WORK WELL DURING MEDITATIVE STATES,
THE WHOLE CHAKRA VISUALS ARE GREAT, PICTURING
YOUR EXCESS ENERGY FLOWING THROUGH YOUR BODY
INTO THE GROUND IS GREAT AFTER A SESSION, PICTURING
YOUR LIGHT-LOVE-ENERGY PROJECTED ONTO OTHERS AS WELL,
FEED EVERYONE!

PLEASE BE SAFE ABOVE ALL. I THINK WE ALL REALIZE
HOW POWERFUL ALL OF THIS IS...WE ARE NO LONGER
'GETTING FUCKED UP', IF ANY OF US EVER WERE,
WE ARE *CHANGING REALITY*-AND THAT IS SOME
HEAVY SHIT...SO PLEASE BE AWARE OF YOUR BODY AND
MIND'S NEEDS AND STATE OF HEALTH, AND KNOW THERE
WILL BE A TOMORROW AFTER A TOMORROW AFTER A TOMORROW
AND NO RUSH IS NEEDED, JUST YOU BEING HERE MAKING
A DIFFERENCE.

PEACE,
SUKI
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[02 Jan 2002|11:56am]

ex_suki_blue622
[ mood | brainy ]

i recently added a bunch of people
to my friends list...having interests
that hopefully match mine, otherwise
this entry is going to sound..

a bit strange..

The herb is still not making me hungry and I know
i need to eat for the nutrients, to replenish..
but the thought of food actually confuses me,
i have to put that warm smelly slimy texturized
goop into my mouth and taste the nothing no taste
bud taste? yeck. Yet I haven't eaten much since
Monday,
nor slept much for that matter.

yesterday afternoon i took dex with cliff,
and waited most of the trip for it to 'start'...

for hours i contemplated new thought-forms
and worked with my energy, swirling it purposefully
around in my body, 'lighting' up my left brain, and
letting the energy fill up my right...pulling
energyin-sametime releasing energy out...etc.

when i felt the hint of the chemical is when
cliff and my foreheads parted after feeling
our energies combine and 'take off'...i pulled
apart and then felt the dizzy-confusion-nausea
etc..

only to lay back down and once again feel
'normal'.

um...heh. i think the dex mindset has become...
my mindset...um, the two have merged over the
years and recently have become one...jeezus. i
no longer need dex...or any drug for that matter,
i have a feeling with the exception of dmt at this
point, that lsd and shrooms may also feel this
way, but perhaps not...just had a thought about
don juan and his mention of the 'ally' ...clamiing
mescaline was his 'ally' and once you take the
time to get to know the drug, paraphrasing here..
the drug accepts you and you both then have a
symbiotic relationship with each other, somehow..
all very confusing...let us just say if dextromethorphan
was an actual entity, he has just channeled himself
into me, yet i can't distinguish him vs. me anymore,
i am...? both, a new level, a new something...cause
i def. feel, like i am tripping when sober...my senses
are so heightened, and my thoughts so sharp...i feel
my brain all around my head, warm, moving...it almost
feels as if my head is glowing because i can feel every
inch of it...i can feel this tingly/warm/swirling sensation
as it moves to different areas of my brain. i feel as
though i have tuned into my body so much that i can actually
have a conscious effect on it...if i want to be smarter,
i convince myself i am. i feed my brain enough food-thought
forms, books what have you...new ways of thinking,
*altered realities/worlds/consciousness * and
then consicously feel when it changes instead of
being ignorantly unaware of the whole process, and then
by seeing the process you have even greater control
over it...interesting to say the least..

but the pressure is weird though, just typing all of
this and it feels like my head is condensing into
a stone, heavy...so have to tell myself light...lighter,
my head is a balloon full of nitrous... yeah...

i think our brains are the computers, we use computers
not realize we are the computers... we all can easily
program our brains, put in any reality software we
want...thing is...won't work unless your intentions
are good and pure for yourself...obviously it won't
work if you feed yourself a virus (forcedreality
not your own-)...your body/computer
knows what the best programs are for itself and will
run promptly and smoothly when you input these and
these alone-your *own* software-personalized
to fit your computer..., you will know cause you will 'feel' it
in every sense of the word, that is experience and
experience is the great validator.

just an idea...the possibilities are
endless :)

peacelovegoodthoughtforms,

suki

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sending much love... [28 Dec 2001|11:18am]

ex_suki_blue622
[ mood | open ]

'high priest'
timothy leary

'what happens when you turn on? where do you
go when you take the trip? you go within.
consciousness changes. your nerve endings,
neural cameras, cellular memory banks, protein
structures become broadcasting instruments for the
timeless humming message of God located inside your
body.

the external world doesn't change, but your
experience of it becomes drastically altered.

you close your eyes and the thirteen billion
cell brain computer flashes multiple kaleidoscopic
messages. symbolic thought merges with sensory
explosions; symbolic thoughts fuse with somatic-
tissue events; ideas combine with memories-personal,
cellular, evolutionary, embryonic-thoughts collapse
into molecular patterns.

you open your eyes and you see your tidy television-
studio world of labeled stage-props fusing with
sensory, somatic, cellular, molecular flashes.

your nervous system is prepared to register and
coordinate up to one thousand million units of flashing
information each second.

a psychedelic trip lasts from five to twelve hours.

each person in the session is a universe of
two billion years of protein, protean memories,
and sensations. A heady mix.

what do you do when you TURN ON?

you TUNE IN

TUNE IN means to bear witness to the Light,
that all men might believe.

The TURN ON bolt shatters structure.
Reveals the frozen nature of the artificial
state-set men call reality. Certitude collapes.
There is nothing but the energy which lighteneth
every man that cometh into the world.
E=MC 2

We discover we are not television actors
born onto the American stage-set of a
commercially sponsored program twenty
centuries old.

We are two billion year old carriers
of the Light, born not just
of blood nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man, but of the
Light that flashed in the Pre-
cambrian mud, the Light made flesh.

TUNE IN means that you sit in the debris
of your shattered illusions, and discover
that there is nothing, you are nothing except
the bearer of the wire-coil of life, that your
body is the temple of the Light and you begin once
again to build a structure to preserve and
glorify the Light.

and to TUNE IN you must DROP OUT

DROP OUT means detach yourself tenderly,
aesthetically, harmoniously from the fake-
prop studio of the empire game and do nothing
but guard and glorify the Light.'

peace

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10x Salvia [12 Dec 2001|06:51am]

novapsyche
My trip partner and I just got one gram of 10x salvia divinorum in the mail yesterday, and hope to experience it soon.

We've tried to smoke dried leaves before, but to no avail. (I think set and setting had a lot to do with why we never have had any results. In addition, our technique may have been partly to blame.)

Question: what would be a recommended dosage of extract-enhanced salvia? More specifically, for my first time I'd like to only get up to a level L (3rd tier) dose; I think any stronger than that might lead to an unpleasant trip. Suggestions?
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